Episode 109 – Liz Dingle | Executive Coach

In this episode I speak with Liz Dingle, an executive mindset coach whose goal it is to help people lead with love rather than lead with fear.

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Murray Guest  

Liz, welcome to the podcast. I just want to say before we get into our conversation, how much I loved just chatting with you. We’re just chatting for a good 15 minutes getting to know you and the work you do. It’s been great already.Thank you. 

Liz Dingle  

Thank you. Likewise, I’ve enjoyed it already.

Murray Guest  

Well, let’s continue that going. I want everyone to learn more about the great work that you do in your business and the leaders you work with and how you help them. Before we get into that though. How are you?

Liz Dingle  

I’m good. I’m good. It’s, it’s we’re getting surprisingly very beautiful weather in Melbourne for this time of year, so very much blue skies and and quite warm. And the kids are back at school. So that’s helped as well. One is yeah.

Murray Guest  

I get that. Yes, it’s the balance isn’t it between I love the time within school holidays, and it’s nice to get back to school.

Liz Dingle  

Yeah. And my son has gone back to school loves school. So that was good. My son going back tomorrow much prefers to be at home so it’ll be a different story.

Murray Guest  

Yeah. I noticed a shift when my youngest started going to high school and really loved it. Except for a couple of teachers, which I think you know, all teachers are slightly different and whether they connect with them or not. 

Liz Dingle  

Yeah, so important. Yeah. 

Murray Guest  

I’ve got a question that popped into my head. And that is, do you feel like as a coach your coaching style and your ability as a coach, does that creep into your parenting?

I think so. Yeah, definitely. I mean, as we were talking about, I’ve only been doing this for three years. So and then two of those years was through COVID and in Melbourne, we had nearly two years of lockdown. So as a single parent, I was building my business with my boys there and homeschooling. And so we’re in a different house now. But the house we were in at the time we we all had our desks in the lounge room. And so they basically saw my business go from one client to 30 clients and they heard it so they would be on their desk doing things and then I’d get off a call and they’d go mummy was that a prospect or a client? They’d give me feedback like, you did really well. But but they learnt so much so even though they didn’t learn a hell of a lot through school over those two years. I actually think they learned so much more than that just by watching me build my business and and have to keep going along that journey. It was amazing. And they now say back to me things that I’ve said to them.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, great. Great. And I think you and I are a bit similar because I’m a bit like that too. Whereas I feel like my parents didn’t talk much about the work that they did. My dad worked for a company but it was like work was something very separate. And I think there’s something empowering and really valuable for our children to learn about business and money and the conversations that we have and how valuable that is. I mean, I love doing that. The thing that pops into my head a few years ago was, so my oldest daughter, Mia, is 24. If you’re listening to this episode, Mia, Hi. And a couple of years ago she said dad right now I need a dad not a coach. Because I can slip sometimes into that asking questions and holding space but right right then in that moment, she needed me to be more of the father and than a coach and that’s something that I still I know it’s a natural way for me to be but I just got to be mindful of that. I think.

I try to. I think I tried to seed it in rather than make it overly obvious. But yeah, like, for example, this morning when we were going to school, we’re running a bit late because Jack had to be cross country training at 8am. And we were about five minutes late. And he was getting really frustrated with the traffic. We kept getting, slow people kept moving in front of us and and then he started saying because I said Oh look, there’s no point getting negative about it because it will make it worse. And he said so the whole way, he was joking he was like That’s fantastic. Look at that slow person is just coming up and this light is red and that is so good. But it was funny. Even though he was joking by the end of it when he got out he was actually not stressed at all. So it did help to take his mind off so that I think I find with my clients, lots of my clients teach my content to their children. And I always say that them if you can teach this to your children, then you understand it. Because you don’t get taught a lot of mindset in school these days. It’s probably better than it used to be but it’s still a long way away from where it should be.

Murray Guest  

Totally agree. Totally. I think it’s getting better and some of the things that I’ve heard my children talk about that they have had on development days in at school around the their mindset and how that does drive how they show up. But yeah, so feel like we can do a lot more. I want to go to your mindset and how you made that shift three years ago to start your own business because that’s a big decision and how did you how did you make that decision?

It was pretty much a split decision. I’d been studying personal and professional development for personal reasons for many, probably about 10 years leading up to that point. And I’ve been in marketing roles for 20 years. And and the more I did it, I just got to the point where I knew that it wasn’t meaningful enough for me, and that there was more for me and that I could do more than I wasn’t even though it’s achieving great things for the business and I was passionate about the people that owned the business and all that sort of thing and wasn’t actually helping anybody in a meaningful way. So and that started to play on my mind a lot. I was in retail too, fashion retail, and I found that it was, you know, the way that fashion retail has gone especially in Australia is not, it doesn’t, my values weren’t there with it. It was very aggressive. Very reactive. You know, I’ve seen people be taken down and you know, really nice, creative people. And I felt like I just kept getting all these messages that this wasn’t right. The other thing is that I’m a sole parent and the jobs I were in were massive, you know, 250 emails a day you’ve got to be on all the time you’ve got to be the first one in, last one out. I missed lunch and all that sort of stuff and they were my decisions, but that’s how I felt like I needed to behave when I was in corporate. And and I got I got a bit angry because my mom was a sole parent too. And she’d done that, she’d worked you know our whole time and she missed out on a lot because she was always working. And I thought I’m not going to do that. Because the boys were, you know, just in their primary school enjoying that. And so, it just dawned on me that if I was going to do this and based on all the information I’ve learned, I was gonna go and start my own business. I had to do it quite dramatically. I had to do something that put my back against the wall and pushed out any paradigms that were just held in there. Because otherwise I would just so easily go back and get a well paying big marketing job.

Murray Guest  

I have heard and you might know exactly where this quote comes from but around if you have a plan B you’re not setting yourself for success. Yeah, the Vikings that set the boats on fire because we’re going here and that’s what we’re doing and there’s there’s no other so I’m hearing your mindsets like I’m I’m all in.

Yeah, and I think what we don’t realize is that we’ve never failed before when our backs were against the wall, you know, if you think about when you failed or if you failed, it’s often you won’t sink, you’ll always swim, you will always fight and I don’t think we realize that when something comes up an opportunity comes up and and so I knew that in order to make something different. I had to do really different, something really different and and so what I did was I wrote down all these what I wanted, but really I was really angry and like I was like I’m not going to, I’m going to work 930 till 230, five days a week. I’m going to be at all the drop offs, all the pickups, I’m gonna be really successful. I’m gonna get lots of clients. All this stuff. I wrote down that most people would go we can’t do that you’re a sole parent, you need to be responsible. You need to have a job you need to have an income coming in. I did the opposite of all of that. And I knew it would be hard and it was, it was really hard. And but it’s so worth it. So worth it. And so I just quit. I just quit. 

Murray Guest  

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. 

Liz Dingle  

In a time when I couldn’t afford it.

Murray Guest  

Yeah. And I can imagine that the voices, whether that’s friends, family, coworkers, that their stuff that they put in that situation that you’ve got to park and say Hang on, no, this is my choice, it’s where I’m going. Did you get some of that going on?

Oh big time. I basically had to avoid my mom because she’s very safe person and and other people too. I had to protect my own energy. Otherwise I would feel I would, you know their fear would feed me and and then I would go back because I could have easily gone back but it’s interesting because about five months into doing my business, I still didn’t have a client. I’d done all the training. I’d gone to Canada and got my registration and all sorts of things to do the to become a coach with thinking to results. And I came back and started my business and even though I’ve been in marketing for 20 years, I did not know how to market myself. But I felt like I should know. And so I was in stuck in this really bad paradigm where I felt as a marketer, I should know better. And so I should keep going on my own and so I wasn’t accepting any help from other marketers. And so I had nothing left. Basically after five months. I think I had 30 cents in the bank, which I saw when I did my tax return for that year. And I was about to give up and go back and get a job because I thought I’ve got no option and I didn’t want to tell anyone. I couldn’t tell anyone. Anyway, based on what we’re talking about with kids, I told my oldest son Bailey, who was 10 at the time I said to him, I think Mommy’s gonna have to go back and get a job. And this was the sort of sand in the sand, the line in the sand moment. And he turned to me and he said, you said anything was possible. And I had taught him that. Yeah, that’s great that I taught him that but he reflected that back on me. And so I was in a real bind because it was like either go back and I teach him that no, anything’s not possible. Or I have to keep going. And you know, I didn’t know whether I was gonna lose everything at that point in time. And so I decided I had to prove to him that anything was possible. And so that was the line in the sand and I just basically said, Okay, if it’s gonna get worse, it’s gonna get worse if we lose everything. We lose everything. If we lose this, you know, we were renting if we can’t pay rent it was all that sort of stuff. But it was a real it was like that moment that turned everything around for me and I got a client within the next few weeks, a really good client. I don’t think and he actually happened to be my next door neighbor. Yeah, which was not my ideal client, but he needed someone to help him and I needed money, obviously, to start this business. And so it’s amazing when you put the line in the sand, and you…

Murray Guest  

And the thing that jumps out is the inspiration that we can get sometimes from somewhere where we don’t think we’d get it, like Bailey.

Yeah. Amazing. And so all of a sudden, I was okay, you know, I mean, I was, I only had one client, but but it was enough to keep me going. And then I also had that moment where I realized I’m not an expert in LinkedIn. Even though I know how to build pages for businesses. I’m not an expert at marketing LinkedIn. And that was a really big moment. And I think for a lot of coaches I think that’s a good lesson to realize that what you want is right there in front of you, but you’re the one blocking it. And so I just decided instead of saying no to everyone, which I was very good at, done in my job as a because I’d always been in house and now I would say yes to everyone. Anyone on LinkedIn that came to me and said they wanted to help me. I would talk to them. And I ended up with three really incredible people who helped me, one who taught me about LinkedIn marketing, and now that’s the only funnel I use is outreach. I haven’t actually expand into any other social media. It’s kept me busy.

Murray Guest  

What I like the saying that I picked up somewhere along the way for my own journey of play where your clients play. And your clients, executive coaches, you work with, those teams you work with, they’re they’re on LinkedIn, and that makes sense to be on there. And as you said, you’re getting those connections, those, you know, really valuable connections when we were talking before we started about some of the people you’re working with so good. And it’s working.

Yeah. LinkedIn is amazing. And at first of all, I started off getting heads of departments. So I started at that level. Yeah, because that’s where my confidence was at when I went well there, but really what I wanted to do was coach CEOs and C suites. But I didn’t have the confidence when I started, I thought, why would a CEO want to speak to me I wasn’t a CEO in my past, you know, in my corporate career so it took me a while to get there. But now I only coach CEOs and and C suites. And I’ve found that now that I’m there, and I’ve got over all those worries. They’re so much more responsive than the next level down. And so that’s really surprised me too. So it’s all belief. You know, it was a belief that I had in my mind that CEOs won’t have time, well CEOs have more time than the people in the heads of positions. You know.

Murray Guest  

Well, to build on that, that in the work that you do you help the CEOs find that time as well.

Yeah, yeah. And it’s the CEOs that are drawn to me who are interested in deeper work. They’re interested in, they do they have empathy, they care about other people. They want to make things better, they’re not just there to get the sales for the business. And so those sort of, sadly, those sort of CEOs don’t get drawn to me, which probably need my help more than more than anyone. My goal is really to, I’ve decided that if I can help more CEOs, then that’s going to have a much greater impact. Because they can go on if I can really impact a CEO, they can impact a whole business. And then by impacting that whole business, that that impacts that has a massive flow on effect with families and communities and everything like that. So that’s where I stick to now.

Murray Guest  

So you’ve talked a lot about mindset, this mindset that you needed, in your journey, also the training you’ve done. In essence, when you’re working with a CEO, what are you doing with them to help them around understanding their own mindset and shift that mindset like what does that look like?

Well, what I’m trying to do is help them see that they’ve got a greater potential. So I love to take successful people and make them realize that their success is minute, you know, it’s so much smaller than what it potentially is. So the program that I do, which is thinking into results, takes them helps them through those steps of understanding, what is my potential, like, what is my overall potential? So this is what I know and do now. But what if I took all of what I know and do and brought it up to the surface? And, and, and really reach for something much bigger. And I usually do it through a goal. So setting a goal that is way beyond what they’ve ever thought was possible.

Murray Guest  

Right. And the thing that’s jumping out to me is those limiting beliefs that we have as adults, and I’m assuming you’re coming across some of those as you work with these leaders. 

Liz Dingle  

Absolutely. Big time.

Murray Guest  

So how do we break those limiting beliefs?

So generally through repetition, so first of all, you’ve got to realize you’ve got it. You’ve got a limiting belief. So we talk about paradigms. So paradigms are a multitude of habits. So you’ve got a health paradigm, and within that health paradigm, you’ve got maybe 100 different habits that make up that paradigm. So for people what I tried to do is help them first of all, they might realize I’ve got a problem with my just say that they might have, they might be a CFO, and they want to go to CEO, for example. So they’ve got a problem there because they can’t take that jump sometimes it’s quite hard for them to take that last step into CEO. So that’s the parent they’ve got this paradigm around that but it’s not it’s not about changing the whole paradigm. It’s about understanding what are the habits within that are actually holding you back. So for example, something might be a lot of a lot of times with my clients, they’ve realized that their networking, the way they network is completely wrong. So they might, it might dawned on them that I don’t even have someone that’s in my network that’s done what I want to do, who I aspire to, I might have a lot of colleagues that are around us, you know, the same as me, and some people that really inspire me, but I’ve actually never, I haven’t got someone that you know, in the industry that I want to be in that has actually done what I want to do and so that’s just a matter of okay, let’s let’s find who those people are and reach out to them and see whether there’s an opportunity to connect or let’s look at different networks that you can join and networks is one that’s just come out because I think when you get to that level, you do need to you do need to network correctly.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, and I totally agree the insight there around that network going beyond your industry or the let’s say the same same of other people that have been on similar journeys and if you want to do something different, where you’re going to get the insight, the experience the knowledge from someone that something a bit different. And if I think about things like improvement in efficiencies in business, continuous improvement strategies, what works there is let’s look at what’s happening in other areas of other businesses, other industries, other perspectives are bringing that in and it works the same for ourselves on an individual level.

Yeah, absolutely. And so and I think the work I do, I’m able to get quite personal with my clients as well. And that’s what they like, because I can I think what they’ve said is that I can see a perspective that they may not necessarily be able to see so I can give them a different perspective and, and even though most people come to me with a professional goal, they always gain more personally.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, yeah. And isn’t it so good when we can help people on that holistic? Yeah, I’m with you, because I feel like with my clients, and we might be they’re talking about some professional goals, but then we’re talking about relationships outside of work or their health or something else that they want to improve in in part of their life. And if that changes, there’s a flow on effect back professionally as well.

Absolutely. I say that I honestly believe that you can’t have professional growth without personal development. And I don’t think there’s enough of it. From a senior level all the way down, just realizing that if you can just work on the individual and help them with one part of their you know makeup to become conscious about one part of their you know, behavior or belief system that can change everything for them. And so, you know, lots, lots of businesses have very high turnover, because they’ll get someone who’s got the perfect resume. It’s got all the skills that they need, and then they’ll come and then I’ll do four to six months. And then by the end of it, they’ve found something in them, that doesn’t work. And it’s usually a personal trait that doesn’t fit with the business, but if no one works on that personal trait with that person, they don’t know. And then the business gets rid of them. And so that person goes on to do it again, in another business and they’re like sitting there going I don’t understand why I can’t get ahead. And then businesses saying I don’t understand why we can’t find someone that’s like this, that if they just you know did some mindset coaching on that person and helped them gain their conscious awareness about how they behave, how they react to things, what their belief systems are, they could just turn that person into the most valuable person.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, gotcha. The thing that I think’s important that’s popping into my head at the moment too Liz is that and I want to get your perspective of course. Is that what you’re talking about is not all rainbows, unicorns, and Skittles. When it’s like when you’re talking about the trip to school this morning and about, hey, everything’s great. Yeah, mindsets more than that, isn’t it?

So much more. And it is a roller coaster ride and I say that all my clients when they come in, don’t expect this to be easy, because we’re talking about you know, most of my clients are 40 plus. I think it’s great when someone under 40 comes to me because I think they’ve got a lot of foresight and it’d be good for them. But 40 plus, the 40 plus years of thinking and acting the same way we’re gonna have to undo that. And if you can’t see it, some people come to me and they can see a paradigm they’ve got, you know, some I’ve had CEOs come to me and say, you know, I’ve still got this belief that I’m not worthy. Yes, you know, I’m fine in front of everyone. I’m the most confident person but I’m underneath I’m dying here. You know, I can’t, I want to shift this feeling out of me. And so, it’s definitely there to be to be helped through and I don’t think how far however far you get up in the in the rungs. I don’t think that those those things stick around until you decide you’re going to work on them.

Murray Guest  

Powerful though, when someone’s got that realization, as you said, like then we’ve got something to work with.

Liz Dingle  

Well it’s good when they have because there’s, it’s good when they have because that got there. But it also means that they’ve been there for a long time. And so they’ve worked on it for a long time and they still haven’t been able to shift it so whether they gonna be still capable of shifting it that’s going to take could take longer. Whereas for someone who doesn’t know what their limiting belief or behavior is, they just know that they’re getting they’re not getting the result they want. If you know sometimes they can just have this conscious moment of oh shit, excuse me. That’s what I’m doing wrong, and they just shift it and then they start to get the results. I’ll give you an example. I had a client who was very senior in the business but reported to the CEO and wanted to become a CEO, but really did not get along with the CEO at all in fact, felt bullied by the CEO. And like, just like, and his whole mindset was around the problems of the CEO. And so one of my lessons is called the impression of increase and the impression of increase states that no matter who you’re talking to you should always make someone feel better about themselves after talking to you, that’s your goal. That’s your intention in the day. So because it’s all based on law of cause and effect, so whatever it is, but whatever you put out comes back. So if you put out good energy to someone because you love them, or you really like someone at work you put out really good energy to them all the time. That’s great. But if you’ve also got a few people that you don’t like at work and you can’t stand them and you’re putting out negative energy to them either verbally or mentally, well, then you’ve got a mix of negative and positive energy going out from you, and that has to come back in and not necessarily from some person that can come back in any area, it can come back in your personal life. It’s got to come back. It’s just the law. Yeah. And and so he he just had this like lightbulb moment that he was putting out all this negative energy to the CEO about what the CEO was doing wrong and how he wasn’t any good. And he was talking about it to his wife, to friends. And it really wasn’t like him. He wasn’t that sort of person. But it got to him so much. And he just stopped. He just stopped it and and so he changed his behavior and he decided. So I get my clients to do, because this can often be a major problem for many people. So I got him to write down 10 things he liked about the CEO. And he had to read that list every day and every time he felt something bad about him, he had to write down that list and he wasn’t allowed to talk about him to anyone. He just had to let it go. And so this took a while for him to get good at that. And eventually he did and his relationship completely changed with the CEO. The CEO didn’t change. He’s still the same. But the CEO at one point said to him how good their relationship had become. And so they’d improved there and then in the end, he got head hunted for another role somewhere else. So he learned that lesson. The Universe didn’t need to teach him that anymore. So it took him somewhere else because the CEO wasn’t about to move on. So you know, lots of lessons like that.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, and I love that story for lots of reasons. I love the insight around that negative energy that’s going out that’s gonna come back in some form, whether it’s in that role professionally, personally somewhere, but it’s, as you said, it’s out there and it’s coming back. And I think for anyone listening to this conversation, think about when you’ve got that relationship with someone, what you’re owning, because what I hear from that, is that that leader you’re working with, it’s like, what can I own?

Yeah, what and you have to own all of it, you actually own all of it, which is very hard. And I guess that’s what mindset coaching is all about, taking responsibility for you. Even though there might be things in your environment that aren’t right or good. It is taking full responsibility for you. And when you do take full responsibility for you the outside actually ends up changing. That’s when we get, that’s what, I think that’s where we all go wrong. We expect something of the outside to change and then we’ll change. Yeah. Doesn’t work like that.

Murray Guest  

Can I just say the other thing that jumped out to me too, and in that great example is, this, tell me, I’m sure I’m aligned here. It wasn’t about those two people becoming best friends. No, no, it was about respect and professionalism.

Yeah. Yeah. And it was about realizing that I, my energy is getting pulled into this. And I’m the only one that can pull my energy out of it. He doesn’t have to change like it’s a decision. He doesn’t have to change. I do. And when I change, everything changed. I’ve got another quick example that I’ll give you. I had another client who came to me and she felt like her boss bullied her too. She didn’t like him. She couldn’t stand him. And so I got her to do the same exercise. And she hated me for making her do it. She couldn’t get to 10, pick 10 things about him, but she did it. And she did it for quite a while. And he still kept being mean to her and she kept going and kept coming back to me. And kept going. And within about 30 days. I don’t know, maybe it was a little bit longer. I’m not sure but she finally accepted that this is how I have to deal with it. This is working. This is how to deal with it. He quit. Out of nowhere, he got headhunted. And all of a sudden he was gone. And it was almost like once she had accepted that it was her, that energy didn’t affect her anymore. And she was okay. He didn’t need to be there anymore. So he got head hunted and he was gone. 

Murray Guest  

Yeah, and I’ll be really open, Liz, I reckon that once that lesson’s happened for her then the universal said okay, this person can move on.

That’s exactly right. And that’s what happens with people they keep going from job to job but they’re actually getting the same energy on a different, in a different body or brand. They seem to get the same result over and over, and I can see it.

Murray Guest  

I think the thing too, I think that’s important to mention is this is not talking about unacceptable behavior in the workplace and saying that’s acceptable, is it?

No, not at all. Not at all. It’s about it’s about it’s all it’s not about what’s going on outside. It’s all about what is what am I allowing to affect me, my energy so when you wake up in the morning, you’re going directly to that person. You don’t want to see them or and so you can just work on your behavior regardless of what is happening. Your feelings.

Murray Guest  

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so great connecting with you and a like minded passionate person around coaching and helping people develop from that holistic approach. It’s, thank you so much. I do want to ask you a couple more questions before we wrap up. I think you’ve covered this but I just want to be really clear. Who do you really love to work with?

I love to work with CEOs and their teams, their senior management teams, because I just think there’s so much power in being able to help that person and the culture. I think that can help change the culture of the business, if I can get the CEO and he’s his or her whole team, talking about the same things and having some breakthrough moments themselves.

Murray Guest  

And from what you’ve been explaining earlier about the way you work, it sounds like it’s real partnership too, in that. It’s not like hey, Liz comes in for the song and dance show once and off you go. No, that doesn’t work. 

No, I say this is not something that’s quick fix. It’s really not. So looking at doing a, like for example, I might do a three day workshop where I present all the learning or the lessons, but then I’ll go back and do a six month coaching with the team and the individuals as well, because that’s the level and I think six months is good, for six months and then maybe a year, it’s a good amount of time to be able to make some really good headway. And you do see it in your results and they see it in their results. And it’s very, very powerful.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, I totally agree. And we’ve say that before we start recording something about those partnerships that that’s an ongoing journey, and then that connection. So.

Honestly, I believe in helping people lead with love. That’s my goal. Help people lead with love rather than lead with fear. And it’s really the word love incorporated is a hard sort of thing to say, people don’t often, people don’t really put those two together. But if we could put it together more and more, I think we would be we would have a much better corporate environment.

Murray Guest  

Yeah. And whilst COVID has had its obviously some real challenges, I think it’s highlighted that this is even more important.

It’s a real movement. So for, for CEOs looking for something that’s personal and deeper for their senior management team, where they want them to actually grow as individuals as well as professionally. That’s what, that’s this is really got all that involved in it.

Murray Guest  

Yeah. And you’re not working just with people in Melbourne are you?

Working with clients in Perth, Sydney, South Australia. So yeah, it’s all over. So it’s Australia, though. At this point in time, it’s Australia.

Murray Guest  

I have done some work with clients I deal with a few overseas and some it was late at night and Liz, I’m not a night person.

Well, I’m not either and with, you know, sole parent, two kids who are primary school and just entered high school, I just find that I think you’ve got to have your boundaries. Remember why you did have your own business. And if it’s to be with your kids and your family, then you need to really stick with that.

Murray Guest  

Yeah, I still need that reminder sometimes because in all the busyness being caught up, can slip back into that sort of real sort of, I even sometimes call it an employee mindset I can slip into which not to say it’s a bad thing, but I can realize is it’s it’s losing the balance and the reason why I created this, so yeah.

Yeah, yeah, but it’s it can be challenging. I mean, you’ve got to do get the work done too.

Murray Guest  

So if anyone wants to find out more about you, connect with you online, where’s the best place to go and do that?

So I’ve got a website called executiveexcellencecoaching.com.au.

Murray Guest  

I love that name, by the way.

Thank you, and or they can look me up on LinkedIn and just direct message me.

Murray Guest  

Great. And I know you share some really cool stuff on LinkedIn. So please connect with Liz.

Liz Dingle  

I love content. I love writing from the heart. And I get really good feedback.

Murray Guest  

Great. And I need to ask you, of course what is your definition of inspired energy?

My definition of inspired energy is when you come from an authentic, really authentic place and, and you you speak to people heart to heart. That’s, I love that. That’s what I do. And absolutely love, love it when I can do it and see others do it as well.

Murray Guest  

Well, I feel like we’ve done that today. Yeah, I feel like I got to know the real you. So thank you so much.

Thank you. I’ve really enjoyed it, Murray. loved it.

Murray Guest  

Well, Liz, honestly, I’ve loved getting to know you, love hearing about what you’re passionate about in the work that you do. Please everyone connect with Liz at executive excellence coaching.com.au but also on linkedin. Thank you very much. Thank you clarity is important. All right. Great chatting, and I’m sure we’ll talk again, all the best for the next few months.

Liz Dingle  

Thank you so much.

Murray Guest  

Thank you.